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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 8, 2010 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: A sad posting - undead

Christopher Hitchins has been diagnosed with esophagus cancer . This was briefly announced in June of this year . The survival rate for this type of cancer are about the same as pancreatic cancer . Not good .
I have been following his career for over twenty years now , usually to my delight . I always felt him a free thinker , and I respect that attribute highly .
I have two thoughts I would like to share . I used to be an avid watcher of C-Span's Morning Journal ( ? , I think I have forgotten the proper title ). My favorite all time guests were Christopher and his brother Peter . Not quite Cain & Abel , but on the path . They loved each other too much go to the end . It was , odd word here , beautiful to watch them debate . The way in which they used language kept in enraptured . That they completely disagreed with each other only made the fun greater . They simply do not teach rhetoric in the US ( outside of his gifts , and hard work , one reason rob smokes us colonists in debate ).
The other thought was seeing him and Dinesh D'souza engage in their debates over the existence of God . Wonderful , thought - provoking arguments . I hope he can beat the odds . A basic wiki to help those who would like to know .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens


A classic Hitchens photo - recently ( I'm surprised he doesn't have a drink going already ) ,

http://www.inquisitr.com/77556/christopher-hitchens-cancer/

A write up about the brothers ,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255983/How-I-God-peace-atheist-brother-PETER-HITCHENS-traces-journey-Christianity.html

Here is a interview done a few days ago . I apologize for the interviewer ,

http://www2.nationalreview.com/video/video_homie_080610_A.html

And lastly , an bit of a debate between him and D'souza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boH_tJ0mCrU

May the four winds blow you safely home Christopher .

edit - link error

This post was modified by micah6vs8 on 2010-08-08 16:25:00

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 8, 2010 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

"Hitchens is known for his ardent admiration of George Orwell, Thomas Paine, and Thomas Jefferson, and also for his excoriating critiques of Mother Teresa, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Henry Kissinger, among others. "

Sounds like a kindred spirit, I would pray for him but I am an atheist too... best of luck to him and his family.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 8, 2010 10:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

It occurred to me NC why I enjoy media like your most recent . I need to release a certain viciousness . Proper decorum & just plain caring for your fellow person , precludes such wicked thoughts . But not in some smaller worlds .

Basil Dot Com .

Could I have that snub nose ?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 11, 2010 11:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

As Ben Franklin once said, (paraphrased) "If we did not print anything that offends anyone there would be very little printed".

Another great one that I don't care to google for a source, goes something like "freedom of speech is not meant to protect unoffensive speech". I am sure someone iconic or ironic said it at some point.

Thanks for checking out the vids. I have a few more to finish before baby becomes mobile and holding him with one hand and editing video will be more difficult.

Peace out homies

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 8, 2010 10:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

Hey Kid! Have been watching out for the Kid's Book version of von Manstein's "Lost Victories", with lots of pics and associated verses from his battlefield poetry (e.g., the description of a Panzer IV with new armor skirts as poetry in motion while executing one of his counteroffensives on "the back hand"), and when I find it I'll send it along for the little Noise Collector.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 11, 2010 11:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

Ahh the kinetic dispersing track protectors of old... good stuff. Thanks for that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PzIV.Saumur.000a5s6s.jpg

The skirts on the tracks were removable but the turret ones were not. I believe it was the only tank produced throughout the entire war and even saw action in 1967 in the arab-isreali conflict. Thanks to the superiority of the T-34 it became the chassis for all kinds of odd vehicles with many different roles because it could not hold it's ground against the 34. Ironically the T-34 was based on the american christie suspension design that we abandoned for some reason for the springed bogie suspension in the sherman... but I digress.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Aug 8, 2010 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

Have you ever seen his last appearance on Real Time with Bill Mahar? He was blottoed.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 8, 2010 11:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

In agreement w/the general sentiments about him here (he's a treasure, though what he was thinking about Iraq I can't fathom). The cancer diagnosis was some months ago, and I didn't realize it was so serious. I remember there were internet debates as to whether it is all right to pray for Christopher Hitchens since he's an atheist and doesn't want to be prayed for. (My take being, it's fine to pray for him if you want to, as long as you keep it to yourself; if you feel the need to broadcast it, knowing he doesn't want it, then it's obnoxious.) I was working my way through his memoir for awhile, but I got bored around the Salman Rushdie chapter. His comments about Bill Clinton were entertaining - the reason Bill "didn't inhale" for instance. There was also something about a fight over some girl.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 8, 2010 9:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

I, too, appreciate Hitchens although I strongly disagree with some of his positions (such as the war in Iraq). I do wish more people would take time to find out what he was talking about in "The Missionary Position".

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Poster: ducats Date: Aug 8, 2010 9:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

he just became a U.S. citizen last year, and his God is not Great is one of the many books I never finished - I would disagree with you over the best debaters being across the pond

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 8, 2010 10:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

Ducats - do you also not finish the Reader's Digest condensed versions of books? Get through a full Cliff Notes?

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Poster: ducats Date: Aug 8, 2010 3:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

correct. newspapers, industry publications, and the web would really be my only sources for reading materials.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 8, 2010 9:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A sad posting - undead

I always enjoy his writings/debates, but like BD, cannot fathom an intellectual (however spelled) supporting the war in Iraq, esp with knowledge of the regional tribalism at the root of all the unrest (# 1 ahead of # 2, religion)...knowing that Saddam was keeping a lid on it, had to act as if he had WMDs for Iran's sake, and that the lesser of two evils when measured in sheer numbers of deaths per yr suggested we do anything BUT remove him, leaves you little wiggle room for esoteric considerations of alternatives, much less any notion of democracy for folks adhering to the beliefs he openly mocks...short of imperialist recolonization, his support is baffling...

Hmm--didn't mean to go off on that, but to me it's a huge mark against him...and I am in general a war monger.

But, I do wish him well in the battle against the big C! Excuse me while I pour my early morning drink and select a fine cigar...to enjoy the Looming Tower once again (nice book on rise of just such whackos alluded to above, BTW).